[OpenWrt-Devel] Open source & open process

[Imre Kaloz]

John,

Please mind your manners and keep the discussion at a professional level. I doubt Etienne wanted to insult you or criticize your work, and it's true that we did not announce of the availability of final binaries yet.


Imre

On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 07:30:41 +0200, John Crispin <blogic at openwrt.org> wrote:

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> no its certainly farting. i have you 2 and about 1 other person
> complain. the other 95% sent me mails with nice and simple questions and
> input and so forth.
>
> i just had a look, yesterday i got related to BB
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> * 8 "thank you" mails
> * 6 mails asking for various support things
> * 4 pkg maintainers ask for help/logs
> * 2 devs asking for root on the build server
> * 2 people reminded me that now BB is out of the way that i promised to
> fix NCM, hwdetect, ...
> * 2 mails of people voicing wishes for CC
> * 2 driver fixes for i2c on mediatek  .....
> * and etiennes mails and your reply
>
> sorry but looking at those numbers it is farting that you are doing.
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>     John
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> On 02/10/2014 07:01, Hanno Schupp wrote:
>> I think this is his point, mate: You work hard (in isolation), but
>> don't communicate.
>> If you want to avoid emails that smell like farts to you, why not tell
>> people what's going on?
>>
>> On 2 October 2014 17:51, John Crispin <blogic at openwrt.org
>> <mailto:blogic at openwrt.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     nice rant, what happened at mignight that you got so angry that you
>>     feel you needed to vent it out on us ?
>>
>>     i would like to point out that the BB-final binaries have been online
>>     for over a day. currently the root filesystems only hold a opkg.conf
>>     with base and luci. last night we regenerated the files so that the
>>     opkg.conf holds all feeds.
>>
>>     while you were busy farting we were busy working. but thanks for the
>>     nice mail.
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>>     On 01/10/2014 23:59, Etienne Champetier wrote:
>>     > Hi,
>>     >
>>     > OpenWRT is a wonderfull piece of open source code, and it would be
>>     > really great if the project management could be as open as the
>>     > code. BB should be out now but for an unknow reason, it's not, and
>>     > it's frustating. If some feature are missing, let people know. If
>>     > some bugs need to be killed, let the community help. If buildbots
>>     > are broken, let someone provide new ones. Open a TODO list on an
>>     > etherpad, involve people. Whatever the reasons are, i'm sure some
>>     > people can help.
>>     >
>>     > When you open the process, you get more work done (see new packages
>>     > feed).
>>     >
>>     > Please communicate!!!
>>     >
>>     > Thanks Etienne
>>     >
>>     >
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