[OpenWrt-Devel] Open source & open process

[Hanno Schupp]

Apparently yes, Bruno. Just asking for more communication while at the same
time even commending the devs for their hard work, as Etienne did, seems to
justify being insulted.

Personal sensibilities aside this has been a bone of contention for a long
time. Here just a couple of examples:
https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2012-August/016427.html
https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=27466

Sadly, immature responses like the one to Etienne's simple request puts a
sour note on this otherwise great project.



On 2 October 2014 22:06, Bruno Randolf <br1 at thinktube.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> While we all agree that the OpenWRT core developers are doing great
> work, are really busy, and sometimes it's more important to fix a bug
> that to send an email, I think Etienne raises a valid point here:
> communication could be better and the project management could be more
> open...
>
> For example, I did not know that "BB-final binaries have been online for
> over a day"... is it really too much to ask to send a short note about a
> major release to the mailing list?
>
> bruno
>
> On 10/02/2014 05:51 AM, John Crispin wrote:
> > nice rant, what happened at mignight that you got so angry that you
> > feel you needed to vent it out on us ?
> >
> > i would like to point out that the BB-final binaries have been online
> > for over a day. currently the root filesystems only hold a opkg.conf
> > with base and luci. last night we regenerated the files so that the
> > opkg.conf holds all feeds.
> >
> > while you were busy farting we were busy working. but thanks for the
> > nice mail.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 01/10/2014 23:59, Etienne Champetier wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> OpenWRT is a wonderfull piece of open source code, and it would be
> >> really great if the project management could be as open as the
> >> code. BB should be out now but for an unknow reason, it's not, and
> >> it's frustating. If some feature are missing, let people know. If
> >> some bugs need to be killed, let the community help. If buildbots
> >> are broken, let someone provide new ones. Open a TODO list on an
> >> etherpad, involve people. Whatever the reasons are, i'm sure some
> >> people can help.
> >>
> >> When you open the process, you get more work done (see new packages
> >> feed).
> >>
> >> Please communicate!!!
> >>
> >> Thanks Etienne
> >>
> >>
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